mohitb272
09-13 11:18 AM
Guys, I wont be able to make it to DC since I have a FP appointment on that date but I made my contribution of $100. Good luck!!!
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sands_14
09-29 10:22 AM
SO,can we all try to get the unused visas recaptured.If they can do that for nurses and physical therapists ,they can do that to decrease retrogression.I dont think they require senate approval.
Something is better than nothing.Lets push for recapture of unused visas.
Something is better than nothing.Lets push for recapture of unused visas.
Kodi
06-04 02:03 PM
Even under PERM, Atlanta office is backed up. They're still evaluating February applicants its not moving at all. I know its not bad compared to BEC but for some its still bad.
lskreddy
04-30 02:37 PM
I tried several times and it started finally working with real player. I think it is Lofgren who is giving the status of the backlog, wastage etc..
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485Mbe4001
08-14 07:54 PM
I doubt that USCIS can talk cryptic like Alan Greenspan, they probably meant that the PD will be back to what it was in june 08. There are only 3k visas per category and thousands of applicants, i dont see a logical reason why the dates will move 2-3 years. If they do, i too will buy you dinner. nothing is logical with USCIS... during the last couple of weeks of September you will see significant numbers of EB 2 approvals and then its back to square one for another year.
The main reason for the 2 year movement in june 07 was because they wanted to allocate all unallocated visas for the year, then the July VB came out and the rest is history. They have improved the coordination between DOJ and USICS since. Just want to be realistic, if we start assuming thing people get complacent and stop doing the little activities that help us.
I don't agree with it and hope not ! As latest Visa bulleting states - DOS people had predicted and planned - They will move EB3 dates forward to cover all June applicants - that means moving cut-off dates for EB3 - India to Jun 2003 as per Jun 2007 bulletin. For some reason - they see heavey demand now and it may not be the case in next bulletin. Still they beleive its diffcult to predict any dates for EB3 before mid Sept. They are working and intention are there to help EB3 applicants. That leads to make me believe that dates for EB3 - India would move to somewhere Nov-Dec 2002 to Jan-Feb 2003 in next bulletin.
The main reason for the 2 year movement in june 07 was because they wanted to allocate all unallocated visas for the year, then the July VB came out and the rest is history. They have improved the coordination between DOJ and USICS since. Just want to be realistic, if we start assuming thing people get complacent and stop doing the little activities that help us.
I don't agree with it and hope not ! As latest Visa bulleting states - DOS people had predicted and planned - They will move EB3 dates forward to cover all June applicants - that means moving cut-off dates for EB3 - India to Jun 2003 as per Jun 2007 bulletin. For some reason - they see heavey demand now and it may not be the case in next bulletin. Still they beleive its diffcult to predict any dates for EB3 before mid Sept. They are working and intention are there to help EB3 applicants. That leads to make me believe that dates for EB3 - India would move to somewhere Nov-Dec 2002 to Jan-Feb 2003 in next bulletin.
BlueCard
10-01 12:13 PM
If this news is true, then we can see "wild" approvals before the end of September. Some people with complete cases may overtake others.
Mine was probably such a wild case. With a PD of DEC2004 Eb3 ROW, I-140 approved in 2006, filed I-485 in June (ND: June 27), FP: August 1st, "Notice sent welcoming permanent resident" on September 17th, received my card 4 days later, even before the notices. Less than 3 months total processing time, end to end.
I guess they just picked the low hanging fruit and fast-tracked like crazy to waste as little visa numbers as possible. But still not fast enough...
Mine was probably such a wild case. With a PD of DEC2004 Eb3 ROW, I-140 approved in 2006, filed I-485 in June (ND: June 27), FP: August 1st, "Notice sent welcoming permanent resident" on September 17th, received my card 4 days later, even before the notices. Less than 3 months total processing time, end to end.
I guess they just picked the low hanging fruit and fast-tracked like crazy to waste as little visa numbers as possible. But still not fast enough...
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gk_2000
08-24 01:35 AM
GK, All I can say about your disconnected arguments are one thing. Myself and Nathan are talking about fairness about the system and on how corporates exploit the loophole thereby exploiting the hardworking individuals like you and me. We never here scolded and ranted about the program and as a matter of fact we are having issues with the so called "LoopHole" But your arguments are going in a completely different direction. You can re-read all of our posts again and see where we mentioned anything about ranting against the program.
If you really want, you can make sense of the "disconnected" arguments, as they all address various points of your counter-arguments.
And again, we are unable to get enough members to fight for visa recapture or i-485 filing and you want to go about closing loopholes?
And BTW FYI, I never worked for TCS.
There was no way for me to know, but my "guess" is close enough, dont you think?
And to let you know, I did my Masters in Soft Engg from BITS and Bachelors in Technology. When I say I got paid 65k for the kind of service I did to the company(5 yrs ago) , itself says a lot of things on how companies exploit which has no relation to the number of yrs of experience and qualifications.
To remind you, this platform is for what purpose? This argument is tangential, as is the loophole one. We want to focus on what? I will let the below argument pass, after saying this much. But yes, I do emphasize with you on what happened. But I also have my share of tragedies
All that matters for those companies is whether client is made happy or not, irrespective of what you undergo. FYI I worked company starting with W (top 3 IT companies in India at that time) .
Let me explain you how this works.....Exactly as to how it happened in my case.
First you are given ransom salary offer say 30-40% more that what you might be earning and an immediate on-site offer within 12 months of joining the company. You feel pretty happy with all of those initially.
Later they send you onsite as promised on L1 by making you wait for 1 yr, (even when they can sponsor you H1) so person would be eligible on L1. Things will look good until now.
While sending you to onsite, no one will let you know what kind of salary you would be paid. Things will start to get interesting from the moment you land in US.
You are paid just a week of hotel stay(extended stay) and 1 week car rental(only if you have valid DL). You have to beg / borrow for a ride or take public commute if available.
After 2 days of settling you will be given a salary letter stating that your salary is 50k with a bonus of 5k.
This is the catch. The companies feel that sending a guy on site itself is a big deal. Logically you think that person earning more at offshore than the other person will also get paid more. Its not the case, everyone at onsite are paid the same, irrespective of what their salary is are offshore(only 2 salary ranges exist).And there is no offshore component, and the pathetic thing about it is, you are paid basic salary at offshore deducting from your onsite salary.
Also, just so you know, and onsite person playing a manager role is just an additional responsibility and not a dedicated role. So this is on top of your regular technical role.
And now comes your GC step. After you spend 5 yrs onsite, since you have to leave back after 6 yrs, the company will file in EB1-A and thereby getting your GC. After you get your GC, you are already out of touch from the rest of the world except from your daily offshore/onsite issues and so on and you would not be able to know as to what exactly you can do with your GC. All that happens is you will not be fit to work anywhere except the place you were working at. This has happened to many of my colleagues. I was lucky enough to get out of that chaos after my 1 yr at onsite. All I can say is I'm very much happy now with GC filed in EB2 and making much more that what I used to ...
BTW your comment on someone working for $1 or 30k is for their own noble cause and you cannot expect everyone to have that.
So can you force everyone to take higher pay? It's a matter between private persons, isn't it? I guess it is a bigger deal for small guys, as the labor market comes into play. No sense applying it to executives
And coming to a conclusion about someone who you do not know about is uncalled for...
If you really want, you can make sense of the "disconnected" arguments, as they all address various points of your counter-arguments.
And again, we are unable to get enough members to fight for visa recapture or i-485 filing and you want to go about closing loopholes?
And BTW FYI, I never worked for TCS.
There was no way for me to know, but my "guess" is close enough, dont you think?
And to let you know, I did my Masters in Soft Engg from BITS and Bachelors in Technology. When I say I got paid 65k for the kind of service I did to the company(5 yrs ago) , itself says a lot of things on how companies exploit which has no relation to the number of yrs of experience and qualifications.
To remind you, this platform is for what purpose? This argument is tangential, as is the loophole one. We want to focus on what? I will let the below argument pass, after saying this much. But yes, I do emphasize with you on what happened. But I also have my share of tragedies
All that matters for those companies is whether client is made happy or not, irrespective of what you undergo. FYI I worked company starting with W (top 3 IT companies in India at that time) .
Let me explain you how this works.....Exactly as to how it happened in my case.
First you are given ransom salary offer say 30-40% more that what you might be earning and an immediate on-site offer within 12 months of joining the company. You feel pretty happy with all of those initially.
Later they send you onsite as promised on L1 by making you wait for 1 yr, (even when they can sponsor you H1) so person would be eligible on L1. Things will look good until now.
While sending you to onsite, no one will let you know what kind of salary you would be paid. Things will start to get interesting from the moment you land in US.
You are paid just a week of hotel stay(extended stay) and 1 week car rental(only if you have valid DL). You have to beg / borrow for a ride or take public commute if available.
After 2 days of settling you will be given a salary letter stating that your salary is 50k with a bonus of 5k.
This is the catch. The companies feel that sending a guy on site itself is a big deal. Logically you think that person earning more at offshore than the other person will also get paid more. Its not the case, everyone at onsite are paid the same, irrespective of what their salary is are offshore(only 2 salary ranges exist).And there is no offshore component, and the pathetic thing about it is, you are paid basic salary at offshore deducting from your onsite salary.
Also, just so you know, and onsite person playing a manager role is just an additional responsibility and not a dedicated role. So this is on top of your regular technical role.
And now comes your GC step. After you spend 5 yrs onsite, since you have to leave back after 6 yrs, the company will file in EB1-A and thereby getting your GC. After you get your GC, you are already out of touch from the rest of the world except from your daily offshore/onsite issues and so on and you would not be able to know as to what exactly you can do with your GC. All that happens is you will not be fit to work anywhere except the place you were working at. This has happened to many of my colleagues. I was lucky enough to get out of that chaos after my 1 yr at onsite. All I can say is I'm very much happy now with GC filed in EB2 and making much more that what I used to ...
BTW your comment on someone working for $1 or 30k is for their own noble cause and you cannot expect everyone to have that.
So can you force everyone to take higher pay? It's a matter between private persons, isn't it? I guess it is a bigger deal for small guys, as the labor market comes into play. No sense applying it to executives
And coming to a conclusion about someone who you do not know about is uncalled for...
vparam
09-14 03:51 AM
For all those who have sent PM.... Please note I am not an attorney or accountant... But then I had consulted my account and few attorney's ( paid the required fees to get them answered)... So please use your own judgement/caution.
1. Yes you can open a LLC singly or jointly with your wife/friend/anyone.
2. You can start the LLC even when you are on H1B but it is better that you wait till you get your EAD to get oprationalized. reason very very conservative view is that you cannot even write a check for your company or deposit a check... but this is a very conservative view....
3. To open a LLC you can use an accountant ( if you have one, it will be cheaper by a couple of hundred dollars) or use agencies like www.legalzoom.com/legalzip/LLCs/llc_procedure.html .... I have used both in the past....
4. Intially you can just form LLC as single or joint partnership and then elect as S corporations for taxing.... I forget within which period it is to be done, if I correctly remember when you file your first tax return or within 6 months you need to elect as filing as single person entity( then it becomes like your personal income) or you could elect as S corp....
5. You will a tax id for the LLC, business license and other documents when you form a LLC, You will need to maintain book and tax records for 3 years... best to have it managed by an accountant
6. You/ your spouse can work for your LLC.... Some of you if you want to after 180 days change employers can move into your LLC and maintain that you are employed in same occupational duties for your own LLC...
Hope I have been able to answer your questions....:cool:
1. Yes you can open a LLC singly or jointly with your wife/friend/anyone.
2. You can start the LLC even when you are on H1B but it is better that you wait till you get your EAD to get oprationalized. reason very very conservative view is that you cannot even write a check for your company or deposit a check... but this is a very conservative view....
3. To open a LLC you can use an accountant ( if you have one, it will be cheaper by a couple of hundred dollars) or use agencies like www.legalzoom.com/legalzip/LLCs/llc_procedure.html .... I have used both in the past....
4. Intially you can just form LLC as single or joint partnership and then elect as S corporations for taxing.... I forget within which period it is to be done, if I correctly remember when you file your first tax return or within 6 months you need to elect as filing as single person entity( then it becomes like your personal income) or you could elect as S corp....
5. You will a tax id for the LLC, business license and other documents when you form a LLC, You will need to maintain book and tax records for 3 years... best to have it managed by an accountant
6. You/ your spouse can work for your LLC.... Some of you if you want to after 180 days change employers can move into your LLC and maintain that you are employed in same occupational duties for your own LLC...
Hope I have been able to answer your questions....:cool:
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gctest
09-13 09:56 PM
are bhagwan... kash maine substitue labor use kiya hota....
I would have been approved by then...
Been here since 1996 and have a doctorate .. but still in EB2.. and i don't regret it .... but i don't want anymore line jumping for sure.
Delete this moron's login.. I bet he has a substitute eb2 labor himself - talk about morality
- $ 50 monthly to IV since June 2006
I would have been approved by then...
Been here since 1996 and have a doctorate .. but still in EB2.. and i don't regret it .... but i don't want anymore line jumping for sure.
Delete this moron's login.. I bet he has a substitute eb2 labor himself - talk about morality
- $ 50 monthly to IV since June 2006
gumpena
07-20 03:11 PM
Kennedy, Clinton voted against this... I dont know what they are thinking..
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harivenkat
08-13 08:56 AM
"08/12/2010: Wow, That Is Fast. H.R. 6080 Presented to President Today, and President to Sign 08/13/2010, Friday
* As soon as the Senate passed the bill, the Congress quickly cleared for White House and has already been presented to the President. Since it passed during the special session, everything had to be cleared out of the Congress quickly, I guess. USCIS must be busy to get ready for processing and collecting increased fees from these employers soon. The new filing fees will be a huge amount, especially when they decide to file a premium processing request. Can you imagine how much these employers will lose for a single case if the case is filed on premium and denied!! Ouch!
* The new fees will take effect tomorrow since the President is scheduled to sign it into law at 11:00 a.m. EST, tomorrow. "
- The OH Law
wondering if its time to leave....
* As soon as the Senate passed the bill, the Congress quickly cleared for White House and has already been presented to the President. Since it passed during the special session, everything had to be cleared out of the Congress quickly, I guess. USCIS must be busy to get ready for processing and collecting increased fees from these employers soon. The new filing fees will be a huge amount, especially when they decide to file a premium processing request. Can you imagine how much these employers will lose for a single case if the case is filed on premium and denied!! Ouch!
* The new fees will take effect tomorrow since the President is scheduled to sign it into law at 11:00 a.m. EST, tomorrow. "
- The OH Law
wondering if its time to leave....
malaGCPahije
07-15 03:06 PM
Total So far 1340.00. We are Well short of our target of 2000.00. Let's Go Guys. $5 to IV = Hope for GC = Subway FootLong Sub.
Using BOFA billpay. Should reach in 4 days...Will send more later...
Using BOFA billpay. Should reach in 4 days...Will send more later...
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Asian
08-10 02:55 PM
O.K. I might have confused some.
There are certain child tax credit that you qualify with ITIN. But there is another kind of child tax credit which you cannot claim without the child's SSN. I cannot remember the exact name of the tax item but I do remember it was a big amount. Eventually, by the time we can get her SSN (hopefully if we are lucky enough) after GC, we won't qualify once again because of the income limit.
This is from the IRS website at:
As for:
I have filed returns for my child but my child was born here so we do have a SSN.
There are certain child tax credit that you qualify with ITIN. But there is another kind of child tax credit which you cannot claim without the child's SSN. I cannot remember the exact name of the tax item but I do remember it was a big amount. Eventually, by the time we can get her SSN (hopefully if we are lucky enough) after GC, we won't qualify once again because of the income limit.
This is from the IRS website at:
As for:
I have filed returns for my child but my child was born here so we do have a SSN.
diptam
07-06 02:35 PM
More important is the last 48 hrs where they processed 25000 cases
AT-WILL.
Ohh this guy has a good first name - 485 granted.
Ohh this guy married twice,needs money - 485 granted.
Ooh this girl doesnt look good - 485 denied.
Ooh this girl has excellent looks - 485 granted.
Ooh This couple stayed EUROPE not so loyal - 485 denied.
and so on and so forth....
They were/are so busy approving cases that they donot have time to update the message. Everyone from Janitors to Execs have been working for the last week to approve those 66K cases.
AT-WILL.
Ohh this guy has a good first name - 485 granted.
Ohh this guy married twice,needs money - 485 granted.
Ooh this girl doesnt look good - 485 denied.
Ooh this girl has excellent looks - 485 granted.
Ooh This couple stayed EUROPE not so loyal - 485 denied.
and so on and so forth....
They were/are so busy approving cases that they donot have time to update the message. Everyone from Janitors to Execs have been working for the last week to approve those 66K cases.
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sandiboy
07-18 04:03 PM
Assuming that the PD cut off date for a specific stream is 2004 Aug and there are still visa nos available but there are not enough application (can this ever happen for real) what are they going to do? They move the PD further up and whenever the pool is depleting they move it back again?
Assuming they move back the PD to 2000 after they ran out of the nos they start accepting AOS apps for that PD but they donot look at them (for adjudication) until the queue before is cleared based on the receipt date.
In such a case the PD lost all it's significance once the adjustment of status if filed?
If receipt date is the only significant date after AOS is filed then retrogressing to a specified date does not make sense as there is no need to accept new applications if they are not going to work on them and particularly when they know the current size of the queue.
Or May be I am missing something......
Consider I-485 Processing as a 2 Door Room. Front Door is for people who's PD has been current for the given month and can apply & Back Door is for Adjudicating People who are already applied & still current for that month.
The size of the room depends on what date they retrogress it to. If Cutoff date is say 2002, there are few people in that room who would be ready for adjudication. Instead if cutoff date is say 2006, there will be a huge number of people in the room.
As long as you stay in that room for more month (be current), the more chance you have of getting adjudicated fast, but also depends on how many people are ahead of you per RD.
Assuming they move back the PD to 2000 after they ran out of the nos they start accepting AOS apps for that PD but they donot look at them (for adjudication) until the queue before is cleared based on the receipt date.
In such a case the PD lost all it's significance once the adjustment of status if filed?
If receipt date is the only significant date after AOS is filed then retrogressing to a specified date does not make sense as there is no need to accept new applications if they are not going to work on them and particularly when they know the current size of the queue.
Or May be I am missing something......
Consider I-485 Processing as a 2 Door Room. Front Door is for people who's PD has been current for the given month and can apply & Back Door is for Adjudicating People who are already applied & still current for that month.
The size of the room depends on what date they retrogress it to. If Cutoff date is say 2002, there are few people in that room who would be ready for adjudication. Instead if cutoff date is say 2006, there will be a huge number of people in the room.
As long as you stay in that room for more month (be current), the more chance you have of getting adjudicated fast, but also depends on how many people are ahead of you per RD.
Jaime
07-20 11:41 AM
Guys, don't be disappointed about the Cornyn amendment failing! Here's why:
There is a lot of noise already (thanks to IV generating it) about the injustices that we legals face, and the urgent need to reform the legal GC path. I am thinking that senators have heard our friend Zoe and are now realizing that such reform is needed and are now trying to determine how to best use or spin such a potential reform in their party's favor. Therefore, even people like Clinton voted no, because if the Cornyn amendment had passed it would have denied them the visibility and publicity that a well-organized and publicized bill would generate. Clinton has spoken in our favor before, and I think that she voted nay now in order to later be part of a more visible (and politically-rewarding) solution for us.
What we REALLY NEED TO DO right now is support IV as much as we can, and continue to create noise and get our VOICE be heard, but we need to act as a group, as a team. Work together, be heard everywhere. Enough already with us being quiet, keeping our heads down while paying taxes and taking all the abuse! We will continue to be great citizens, meet all our duties and obligations, but this time we will ALSO BE HEARD! Let's go! We're strong! We can do this!!!!!
There is a lot of noise already (thanks to IV generating it) about the injustices that we legals face, and the urgent need to reform the legal GC path. I am thinking that senators have heard our friend Zoe and are now realizing that such reform is needed and are now trying to determine how to best use or spin such a potential reform in their party's favor. Therefore, even people like Clinton voted no, because if the Cornyn amendment had passed it would have denied them the visibility and publicity that a well-organized and publicized bill would generate. Clinton has spoken in our favor before, and I think that she voted nay now in order to later be part of a more visible (and politically-rewarding) solution for us.
What we REALLY NEED TO DO right now is support IV as much as we can, and continue to create noise and get our VOICE be heard, but we need to act as a group, as a team. Work together, be heard everywhere. Enough already with us being quiet, keeping our heads down while paying taxes and taking all the abuse! We will continue to be great citizens, meet all our duties and obligations, but this time we will ALSO BE HEARD! Let's go! We're strong! We can do this!!!!!
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nj_03_2004
07-18 06:21 PM
Defense bill pulled after troop drawdawn measure fails
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/18/us.iraq.ap/index.html
Immigration Amendments on War Bill Fall by Wayside
http://www.numbersusa.com/index
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/18/us.iraq.ap/index.html
Immigration Amendments on War Bill Fall by Wayside
http://www.numbersusa.com/index
susie
07-15 11:32 AM
2 0f 2
Jack, Mary and Sundeep
Sundeep�s Dad works in a business, which is 40% owned by him. It is a multinational home furnishing�s business, which in the USA employees 5 American employees to design and craft furniture for sale. He is in L1 visa holder (and Sundeep therefore is an L2 visa holder). After arriving in the USA, the business sponsored Sundeep�s Dad for employment-based permanent residency as managing director. Sundeep and his Mother were derivatives on this application. The petition was ultimately approved and Sundeep and his family adjusted status thereafter before he turned 21. Sundeep eventually became a citizen and does various jobs.
Jack and Mary�s parents are E-2 visa holders. Their business is a large grocery store, which employs over 25 employees on both a full-time and part-time basis. The store is rented, but the business is very successful and is worth about $450,000.
Jack has graduated high school and is very ambitious. His dream was to go to the University of Michigan. Unfortunately he was not eligible for a full scholarship because most scholarships available are only for permanent residents and citizens. Fortunately, he gained a partial football scholarship to play for the Michigan Wolverines. His Parent�s pay for the remaining tuition thanks to their successful business. Jack is in his final year of his degree and is majoring in Math and Economics, and is currently on a 3.9 GPA in the top 98th percentile. He is 20 years old. Upon graduation, Jack wanted to serve in the US military but could not because he is regarded as a temporary resident (being in nonimmigrant status).
He is now considering his options. He had planned to go to law school after military service, but is now deciding whether to attend in the following academic year or find other work first (knowing he cannot qualify for most scholarships and competitive domestic loans). Ironically, his sister Mary has no problem. She is an American citizen. She has the ability to go college and being smart, has received scholarships and low interest loans, saving her many thousands of dollars. She also works part-time to fund her social life.
Education
Another potential solution for nonimmigrant children is through education. As children with derivative visas they are entitled to be educated in the USA to high school level, whether through a State funded school or a privately funded school. Once this is complete a child may decide to go onto college to pursue degree level studies or equivalent studies at a higher education institution.
If a child is approaching 21 or has already passed 21, he or she may apply for a course of study in a US school or college. For academic studies the F1 visa would provide a solution. For vocational studies the M1 visa would provide a solution. However, even with this, there might be a problem for a person who left their US home and has gone back to their country or residence or citizenship because they have turned 21. Sometimes this is referred to colloquially as the �home country,� which is an insulting turn of phrase for a person who has spent most of their life in the USA, and therefore will be referred to in this article as country or citizenship or residence.
To be eligible for most nonimmigrant visas (i.e. those that do not have dual intent or similar status) a person generally has to prove ties with their country of citizenship or residence. Specifically he or she has to prove at the time of applying for the visa (including M1 or F1 visas) that he or she:
1. Has a residence abroad;
2. Has no immediate intention of abandoning that residence; and
3. Intends to depart from the USA upon completion of the course of study.
Fortunately, in relation to (1), the FAM guidelines recognize that in relation to F1/M1 visas,
it is natural that the student does not possess ties of property, employment, family obligation, and continuity of life typical of [more short-term visa applicants such as a] B visa applicants. These ties are typically weakly held by student applicants, as the student is often single, unemployed, without property, and is at the stage in life of deciding and developing his or her future plans. This general condition is further accentuated in light of the student�s proposed extended absence from his or her homeland. [9 FAM 41.61 N5.2]
However, there is still another problem. The consular officer must still also be satisfied with (2) and (3). Fortunately, the consular officer has to recognize an intention of abandoning residence of your country of citizenship and residence is only important at the time of application and that �this intention is subject to change or even likely to change is NOT a sufficient reason to deny a visa.� 9 FAM 41.61 N5.2. Despite these considerations, if the consular officer is aware the rest of the visa applicant�s family is in the USA from the required disclosures on the visa application, this is evidence which may cause denial of the visa.
Jack
Unfortunately, on graduation Jack could not find work in the USA. He wanted to remain in Detroit to be with his family, but it is suffering from high unemployment. He also had three offers from three banks in New York before graduation to work as a stock trader. He accepted one and they were willing to sponsor Jack with a H1-B nonimmigrant employment visa. However, when the employer submitted the application and fee, it transpired they could not sponsor him. The H1-B cap for 60,000 visas had been reached for 2008 in just three days. 150,000 applications were made and so the USCIS selected 60,000 on a random basis. Unfortunately, Jack was one of the unlucky 90,000 and the application was returned to the employer unprocessed. Even more unfortunate, the employer was unwilling to sponsor Jack with an employment-based permanent residency petition.
Jack is now in the UK, his country of citizenship, despite the fact his Parents and sister remain in the USA and will continue to be so. Jack�s sister could sponsor Jack for a family-based immigrant visa after she turns 21, but she is still only 18 and so cannot do so under current laws. Even if she was 21, Jack would have to wait about 15 years. Jack, therefore resigns to a new life in London. Fortunately, he works in Canary Wharf, London, for a major bank as an analyst.
During this time he is not happy. He is out of touch with people in the UK culturally speaking, suffers from depression, but despite this does his best to adjust. He contemplates coming to the USA on student visa to do law school. In the future he applies and gets offers to do a JD in Yale, Columbia, New York, Georgetown and Duke.
However, if the laws stay as they were at the start of 2007, Jack knows he will have problems. He has to have the intention to leave the USA upon completion of his studies. However, in his heart he wants to stay in the USA but realizes the law does not allow this. Knowing this, he can apply for a Fulbright scholarship and will likely be ones and successful so that his tuition fees and living expenses are paid for in full. However, the terms state he must return on completion of his degree. If this fails Jack, in applying for an F1 visa, has to prove he can pay for and in fact has the funds to pay for the degree and the living expenses and so would have to wait until he is able obtain this money somehow. This is particularly onerous when you consider a law degree at the above listed law schools costs approximately or more than $35,000 in tuition fees each year alone.
The Need for Reform for the Children
Legislation should be enacted to enable those specified above to also apply for permanent residence. Under the STRIVE Act, illegal immigrants would be provided with a direct path to permanent residency and eventually citizenship. However, the children are law abiding nonimmigrant visa holders are left out in the cold. What a peculiar turn of events!
Jack would not receive any benefit under the upcoming comprehensive immigration reform to apply directly and on his own behalf for permanent residency. For a country that has educated Jack from the beginning (through the taxes of Americans and other residents) it is strange that:
* He is not allowed to live in his home with his friends and family automatically;
* The USA invested so many resources in the development and cultivation of Jack�s talents (tens of thousands of dollars in fact), but Jack is unable to automatically return to give back for his achievements such as through taxes on a potentially high income; and
* The UK has taken the direct benefit, since Jack works in the USA, without having spent any money on his education and development.
The bottom line is immigration needs to be comprehensive, not only to promote family reunification, but also to ensure the USA does not lose out on the best talent in an increasingly competitive global economy.
Help for the Children of Illegal Migrants: The DREAM Act
Ironically, the DREAM Act (The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act) is currently a Bill pending in US Congress (and is incorporated in the STRIVE Act), which would provide wide ranging help to illegal immigrant students. Unfortunately, this does not help the children of nonimmigrant visa holders such as Jack.
Reporting Errors
This article does not constitute legal advice and may not correctly describe the legal position. However, reasonable efforts have been taken to ensure its relevancy. Please report errors and provide feedback on this article on the related thread at http://www.expatsvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1986.
Jack, Mary and Sundeep
Sundeep�s Dad works in a business, which is 40% owned by him. It is a multinational home furnishing�s business, which in the USA employees 5 American employees to design and craft furniture for sale. He is in L1 visa holder (and Sundeep therefore is an L2 visa holder). After arriving in the USA, the business sponsored Sundeep�s Dad for employment-based permanent residency as managing director. Sundeep and his Mother were derivatives on this application. The petition was ultimately approved and Sundeep and his family adjusted status thereafter before he turned 21. Sundeep eventually became a citizen and does various jobs.
Jack and Mary�s parents are E-2 visa holders. Their business is a large grocery store, which employs over 25 employees on both a full-time and part-time basis. The store is rented, but the business is very successful and is worth about $450,000.
Jack has graduated high school and is very ambitious. His dream was to go to the University of Michigan. Unfortunately he was not eligible for a full scholarship because most scholarships available are only for permanent residents and citizens. Fortunately, he gained a partial football scholarship to play for the Michigan Wolverines. His Parent�s pay for the remaining tuition thanks to their successful business. Jack is in his final year of his degree and is majoring in Math and Economics, and is currently on a 3.9 GPA in the top 98th percentile. He is 20 years old. Upon graduation, Jack wanted to serve in the US military but could not because he is regarded as a temporary resident (being in nonimmigrant status).
He is now considering his options. He had planned to go to law school after military service, but is now deciding whether to attend in the following academic year or find other work first (knowing he cannot qualify for most scholarships and competitive domestic loans). Ironically, his sister Mary has no problem. She is an American citizen. She has the ability to go college and being smart, has received scholarships and low interest loans, saving her many thousands of dollars. She also works part-time to fund her social life.
Education
Another potential solution for nonimmigrant children is through education. As children with derivative visas they are entitled to be educated in the USA to high school level, whether through a State funded school or a privately funded school. Once this is complete a child may decide to go onto college to pursue degree level studies or equivalent studies at a higher education institution.
If a child is approaching 21 or has already passed 21, he or she may apply for a course of study in a US school or college. For academic studies the F1 visa would provide a solution. For vocational studies the M1 visa would provide a solution. However, even with this, there might be a problem for a person who left their US home and has gone back to their country or residence or citizenship because they have turned 21. Sometimes this is referred to colloquially as the �home country,� which is an insulting turn of phrase for a person who has spent most of their life in the USA, and therefore will be referred to in this article as country or citizenship or residence.
To be eligible for most nonimmigrant visas (i.e. those that do not have dual intent or similar status) a person generally has to prove ties with their country of citizenship or residence. Specifically he or she has to prove at the time of applying for the visa (including M1 or F1 visas) that he or she:
1. Has a residence abroad;
2. Has no immediate intention of abandoning that residence; and
3. Intends to depart from the USA upon completion of the course of study.
Fortunately, in relation to (1), the FAM guidelines recognize that in relation to F1/M1 visas,
it is natural that the student does not possess ties of property, employment, family obligation, and continuity of life typical of [more short-term visa applicants such as a] B visa applicants. These ties are typically weakly held by student applicants, as the student is often single, unemployed, without property, and is at the stage in life of deciding and developing his or her future plans. This general condition is further accentuated in light of the student�s proposed extended absence from his or her homeland. [9 FAM 41.61 N5.2]
However, there is still another problem. The consular officer must still also be satisfied with (2) and (3). Fortunately, the consular officer has to recognize an intention of abandoning residence of your country of citizenship and residence is only important at the time of application and that �this intention is subject to change or even likely to change is NOT a sufficient reason to deny a visa.� 9 FAM 41.61 N5.2. Despite these considerations, if the consular officer is aware the rest of the visa applicant�s family is in the USA from the required disclosures on the visa application, this is evidence which may cause denial of the visa.
Jack
Unfortunately, on graduation Jack could not find work in the USA. He wanted to remain in Detroit to be with his family, but it is suffering from high unemployment. He also had three offers from three banks in New York before graduation to work as a stock trader. He accepted one and they were willing to sponsor Jack with a H1-B nonimmigrant employment visa. However, when the employer submitted the application and fee, it transpired they could not sponsor him. The H1-B cap for 60,000 visas had been reached for 2008 in just three days. 150,000 applications were made and so the USCIS selected 60,000 on a random basis. Unfortunately, Jack was one of the unlucky 90,000 and the application was returned to the employer unprocessed. Even more unfortunate, the employer was unwilling to sponsor Jack with an employment-based permanent residency petition.
Jack is now in the UK, his country of citizenship, despite the fact his Parents and sister remain in the USA and will continue to be so. Jack�s sister could sponsor Jack for a family-based immigrant visa after she turns 21, but she is still only 18 and so cannot do so under current laws. Even if she was 21, Jack would have to wait about 15 years. Jack, therefore resigns to a new life in London. Fortunately, he works in Canary Wharf, London, for a major bank as an analyst.
During this time he is not happy. He is out of touch with people in the UK culturally speaking, suffers from depression, but despite this does his best to adjust. He contemplates coming to the USA on student visa to do law school. In the future he applies and gets offers to do a JD in Yale, Columbia, New York, Georgetown and Duke.
However, if the laws stay as they were at the start of 2007, Jack knows he will have problems. He has to have the intention to leave the USA upon completion of his studies. However, in his heart he wants to stay in the USA but realizes the law does not allow this. Knowing this, he can apply for a Fulbright scholarship and will likely be ones and successful so that his tuition fees and living expenses are paid for in full. However, the terms state he must return on completion of his degree. If this fails Jack, in applying for an F1 visa, has to prove he can pay for and in fact has the funds to pay for the degree and the living expenses and so would have to wait until he is able obtain this money somehow. This is particularly onerous when you consider a law degree at the above listed law schools costs approximately or more than $35,000 in tuition fees each year alone.
The Need for Reform for the Children
Legislation should be enacted to enable those specified above to also apply for permanent residence. Under the STRIVE Act, illegal immigrants would be provided with a direct path to permanent residency and eventually citizenship. However, the children are law abiding nonimmigrant visa holders are left out in the cold. What a peculiar turn of events!
Jack would not receive any benefit under the upcoming comprehensive immigration reform to apply directly and on his own behalf for permanent residency. For a country that has educated Jack from the beginning (through the taxes of Americans and other residents) it is strange that:
* He is not allowed to live in his home with his friends and family automatically;
* The USA invested so many resources in the development and cultivation of Jack�s talents (tens of thousands of dollars in fact), but Jack is unable to automatically return to give back for his achievements such as through taxes on a potentially high income; and
* The UK has taken the direct benefit, since Jack works in the USA, without having spent any money on his education and development.
The bottom line is immigration needs to be comprehensive, not only to promote family reunification, but also to ensure the USA does not lose out on the best talent in an increasingly competitive global economy.
Help for the Children of Illegal Migrants: The DREAM Act
Ironically, the DREAM Act (The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act) is currently a Bill pending in US Congress (and is incorporated in the STRIVE Act), which would provide wide ranging help to illegal immigrant students. Unfortunately, this does not help the children of nonimmigrant visa holders such as Jack.
Reporting Errors
This article does not constitute legal advice and may not correctly describe the legal position. However, reasonable efforts have been taken to ensure its relevancy. Please report errors and provide feedback on this article on the related thread at http://www.expatsvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1986.
srikondoji
08-02 03:42 PM
I have talked to a representative and he very patiently explained me about the mess.
He clearly and very clearly told me that they have a deadline to send all receipts for June end and July 2nd filers by friday (tomorrow) or worst case monday.
He mentioned that they are working hard to meet this deadline.
Hope this clears the anxiety.
This is true for NSC only.
He clearly and very clearly told me that they have a deadline to send all receipts for June end and July 2nd filers by friday (tomorrow) or worst case monday.
He mentioned that they are working hard to meet this deadline.
Hope this clears the anxiety.
This is true for NSC only.
amitjoey
07-05 05:09 PM
called CA senators, as I am outa state they said they are not entertaining outa state calls at this point...huh!!
They only do this when call volume is high....Does this mean at least CAlif guys are calling..
Go IV go@@
Call your state senators, it is effective that way.
They only do this when call volume is high....Does this mean at least CAlif guys are calling..
Go IV go@@
Call your state senators, it is effective that way.
gc_on_demand
12-11 05:06 PM
Administration may not want to add that right now. I had poll long back to find out many of us are interested into it . Only few replied , with limited resources we cannot achieve any thing.
IV core had same and similar job , AC21 on agenda for this year's agenda. FOIA was small side project at that time.
Now coming to main point ... We see so many news that CIR is coming in early 2010. Administration may not want to add pre registration at that time when CIR passes and all dates become C for 2- 3 years. Then this pre registration will not help as long as you have labor approved. Whole admin fix is based on rule making process and that takes near to 6 months. Also new forms and new memo to all CIS dis offices. Way too for CIS my friend. They can be only on track with new process after year.
If we could have done that last year then it might be helpful. Even I recently did some research and found that Pre registration process that those lawyers talks to attract us is for H1B. CIS wants to implement for H1B and then try out for other non immi worker category and then for Green card applicants. I bet you we will get GC by then.
So we can contribute to IV and have IV to work on our stuff. Removal of country cap , STEM , Recapture etc.. That should easy line for all of us ( EB2 and EB3 )
IV core had same and similar job , AC21 on agenda for this year's agenda. FOIA was small side project at that time.
Now coming to main point ... We see so many news that CIR is coming in early 2010. Administration may not want to add pre registration at that time when CIR passes and all dates become C for 2- 3 years. Then this pre registration will not help as long as you have labor approved. Whole admin fix is based on rule making process and that takes near to 6 months. Also new forms and new memo to all CIS dis offices. Way too for CIS my friend. They can be only on track with new process after year.
If we could have done that last year then it might be helpful. Even I recently did some research and found that Pre registration process that those lawyers talks to attract us is for H1B. CIS wants to implement for H1B and then try out for other non immi worker category and then for Green card applicants. I bet you we will get GC by then.
So we can contribute to IV and have IV to work on our stuff. Removal of country cap , STEM , Recapture etc.. That should easy line for all of us ( EB2 and EB3 )
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